Robertson Training Systems Newsletter 4.30
In This Issue
- Robertson Training Systems Updates
- Testimonials
- Nutrition Tip
- Exclusive Interview: Shawn Windle
- Upcoming Interviews
- New Articles and Blog Posts
- Schedule
Robertson Training Systems Updates
Last day for Inside-Out Sale!
In case you missed the e-mail Friday, the Inside-Out sale ends TODAY!
Here's the e-mail again, for those of you who are interested:
With the upcoming opening of the I-FAST facility, Bill
and I are quickly running out of storage space. So what does that mean
for you? A sweet deal on our Inside-Out product line!

Today through Monday, we're offering you 40% off our entire product
line. Here's all you have to do to get the discount:
1 - Go to the website:
Inside-Out
2 - Add the product(s) to your cart
3 - BEFORE purchasing, go to the right side and insert the discount code
"IFAST"; make sure to apply it.
4 - Purchase the DVD's at the discounted rate. This coupon is good
through 7/21.
As always, thank you for your support. I'll be out of town for 2 weeks
starting Sunday, so if you shoot me an e-mail it may take a while to get
back to you!
Testimonials:
Magnificent Mobility

"Mike
I love the
Magnificent Mobility DVD. I have been weight training for over 25
yrs, and in that time neglected my stretching enough to where I am now
paying for it in the form of nagging injuries in my hips and shoulders.
The exercises in the DVD have shown me the proper way to warm up and
stretch my body. I am already seeing a marked improvement
in my mobility, and my joints feel better each and every day.
Thanks for a great training tool!"
Regards,
Andy
Nutrition Tip
Revving Up Metabolism
By John Berardi
I recommend more calories than most do.
That’s because there's no such thing as
a stagnant metabolic set-point. Instead,
metabolism chases intake. So, if you
want a bigger metabolism, you need a
bigger food intake. And if you’re
worried about fat gain with this
approach, just use outcome-based
decision making and adjust energy
(calorie) intake every two weeks based
on your results. Not much "damage" can
take place in only two weeks. So if you
end up boosting your metabolism, you’ll
be thanking me eternally. And if it
turns out you're consuming too much, you
can just adjust down.
If you like this tip and want to learn more about JB and his products,
check out his
Precision
Nutrition website.
Exclusive Interview: Shawn
Windle
MR: Shawn, thanks for
being with us here today. Please take a moment and introduce yourself
to our readers.
SW: I am the Head
Strength & Conditioning Coach and Assistant Athletic Trainer for the
Indiana Pacers.
MR: What positions
did you hold before getting on with the Indiana Pacers?
SW: I’m not sure I can
remember all of the stops along the way but I will give it a shot!
First job was as an Athletic Trainer at a Physical Therapy Clinic in
MA. While working at the Physical Therapy clinic I volunteered at Holy
Cross College as a Strength Coach under Jeff Oliver to gain experience
and escape the Athletic Training world. After one year in the clinic
setting I accepted a job in minor league baseball (independent league)
as an Athletic Trainer and Strength & Conditioning Coach in Mountaindale,
NY. Following the baseball season I found myself on the move again this
time landing at the University of Connecticut beginning as a Graduate
Assistant Strength Coach and leaving three years later as an Assistant
Strength Coach directly responsible for Men’s Basketball. As exciting
as UCONN was Rutgers University in New Jersey made me an offer that I
could not refuse so we packed up the boxes again. After four years at
Rutgers I received a call from the Pacers and here I am today three
years later.
MR: Since you’ve had
jobs in multiple places, I’m interested in how training changes across
the varying levels of sport.
For example, what are
some of the major differences in training collegiate athletes versus
pros? Other than the obvious difference in talent, that is!
SW: College kids
generally need to be taught how to work and how to handle work. I spent
a considerable amount of time teaching freshmen and sophomores about
work capacity through the use of bodyweight circuits, med ball circuits
and strength circuits. College kids have such a large window of
adaptation and are relatively healthy which makes it much easier to work
with them. The college game schedule usually allows for plenty of
recovery between contests which allows room for mistakes in training and
nutrition.
Professional athletes are
older and have accumulated a lot of mileage. The pro guys do not need
to spend a lot of time doing high volume training since they adapt fast
to workouts and are always at a risk for overtraining. These guys
require a lot less work for a training effect than college kids.
Recovery strategies are always in the back of my head when designing
their training sessions because of the volume of games.
MR: As an avid
basketball fan, I’m always thinking about training basketball players.
But how on Earth do you program for someone that plays 82+ games in a
season?
SW: You throw away
everything you learned about periodization! Rarely do I get into Sports
Performance training or traditional strength & conditioning during the
season. My in-season programming is more or less a high level rehab
program. Either players are actively hurt or we have identified
underlying impairments that require attention before they become hurt.
The goal of most sessions is to restore function and normal movement
patterns. I found it impossible to write programs for even one week at
a time. Things change so quickly!
MR: This may sound
stupid, but basketball players run a lot. What kind of
overuse injuries do you have to deal with on a daily basis? And how do
you address these issues via training?
SW: This is where we
feel we earn our money and is something that we better be good at!
Our Sports Medicine team
always talks about the lack of ankle dorsiflexion as being the biggest
epidemic in the NBA. Most people in society lack sufficient
dorsiflexion just from normal daily activities combined with a lack of
stretching. So you can imagine the ankle of a basketball player that
has been running and jumping for years without proper stretching. Add
into that any ankle sprains that have occurred over the player’s career
further exacerbating the impairments. To run and jump without
compensation you must have at least 10 degrees of ankle dorsiflexion.
As a team we average about 5 degrees while some players struggle to
reach neutral. Keep in mind this is tested while the player is held
into subtalar neutral. This is important to not because if this is not
accounted for when measuring ROM what you might be seeing is some sort
of mid-foot compensation gives the appearance of a normal test. Many
people feel that stretching alone may be the key to “unlocking” the
ankle but this is not always the case. When ROM issues are left
un-treated there is a strong possibility that the talus could slide
forward in the mortise and there could also be problems with the
subtalar joint not moving into eversion. These problems require hands
on joint mobilizations!!! You will notice that these people will have
tibial external rotation on an overhead squat assessment. We take our
ankles very seriously!
Obviously impairments in
the ankle can pre-dispose the athlete to knee problems but more
frequently it leads directly first to the hip. Almost every basketball
player that I have seen has tight/overactive IT bands, biceps femoris
and lateral gastrocnemius. Not to mention that most players have a
psoas complex that has shortened due to the lack of appropriate
stretching combined with the necessity for that muscle group to aid in
lumbar stability in the absence of functional core strengthening. When
you sandwich a knee between a bad hip and ankle there is no doubt that
the knee is next.
I spend a lot of time
assessing the athlete to determine movement impairments and referring
red flags to our Physical Therapists for closer inspection. Our
therapists help finalize the picture of what is happening and we decide
what the appropriate course of action is. They may tell me that there
is a density contracture in the vastus lateralis which is having a major
impact on the IT Band which tells me that no amount of stretching is
going to make changes in the IT Band and VL until the tissue quality
improves.
During the off-season I
am very careful about how much running and jumping that they are
performing so that my program does not contribute to the problem. There
is a very fine line between too much running and not enough but I would
rather err on the side of not enough running heading into training
camp. I like to do a lot of slideboard work throughout the summer to
build conditioning without overloading the running pattern.
MR: Basketball guys
aren’t typically known for their strength, but there are still some
really strong guys in the league. Do you have to train different guys
on the same team differently?
SW: I could have four or
more different programs on a workout board on any given day. Program
design is based first and foremost on physical impairments (as I
mentioned earlier) so naturally that tends to make every program
individualized. When we get the “real workout” when we actually start
lifting some weights consideration is given the physical attributes that
the player does and does not have. If I have a player that is
exceptionally strong I will not spend a lot of time performing strength
work. The focus may instead be speed or any other of his deficiencies.
The other consideration is playing style. One of our players plays a
position that matches him against stronger guys every night which would
make you want to perform more strength work. I resist the trap because
this player is more of a skill player and avoids contact whenever he can
and even if he were stronger he would not utilize it in his style of
play. His athleticism and unwillingness to bang against people creates
a problem for other teams with strong guys. I am a believer in
maximizing and enhancing your skill set rather than trying to become a
jack of all trades and trying to change your approach based on others
when it comes to the style of play for the individual.
MR: Eric Cressey has
talked at length about how he doesn’t really like to squat basketball
guys, especially the really tall ones. What are your thoughts on this?
And if you don’t squat, what kind of exercises do you use instead?
SW: In general I am not
much of a fan of the squat with many athletes especially basketball
players. Don’t get me wrong, I do love the squat but I have not worked
with many people that can perform it for the intended benefit. With
light weights as part of circuits we will do a lot of squatting because
I feel the overall motion is very important but when it comes to
handling heavy loads I think the risk to reward ratio is pretty high.
Occasionally we will acquire players through trades, free agency or
draft that really like to squat. I will let these guys squat if they
are proficient at the movement or I will give them an extensive
corrective exercise menu before they can climb under the bar.
We do a lot of trap bar
deadlifting from the mid-shin to just below the knee position for double
leg strength. For the most part though we are focusing on single leg
strength and my favorite exercises are the reverse lunge off a short
box, lunge walks, single leg squats, high box step ups and lunges. The
reverse lunge off the box is nearly impossible to do wrong and everyone
will get much deeper than they ever would get while squatting or
lunging.
MR: Most of us will
never have the opportunity to work with a professional sports team.
What are some challenges you’ve dealt with that the average coach may
need think of or deal with?
SW: With college
athletes the strength coach is in a power position. If an athlete comes
to a workout late in college the coach can punish the athlete as they
see fit. Professional athletes more or less come and go as they
please. If one of my guys shows up late there is little to no
consequence. During the season we have a fine system in place to act as
a deterrent for missing workouts. Each player must get ten workouts in
each month. The summer months are frustrating because we are not
allowed to fine players under the terms of the Collective Bargaining
Agreement and players are allowed to live anywhere they choose.
As frustrating as this may sound I look at it as a challenge. Every day
brings something different working in the NBA which is exciting. Having
an open mind and evaluating the big picture really helps me keep my
cool.
MR: Ok, final
question here: What is one thing you’ve done wrong in the past as a
coach that you’ve since fixed?
SW: In the past I felt
that every faulty movement that I saw in training could be corrected
through proper cueing. Sometimes athletes would not respond to my cues
and make the necessary corrections which would lead me to think that the
athlete was either a motor moron or a dog. It took me a long while to
realize that there could be a reason for their inability to execute the
movement properly.
I have the opportunity to
visit my players around the country during the summer and I see a lot of
styles of training and different philosophies (some good and some bad)
but what I don’t see is an ability to evaluate movement and those that
are able to see an impairment rarely does the coach know why it exists
let alone come up with intervention strategies.
Learning identification
and intervention strategies for movement impairments will take your
knowledge to another level and will almost entirely change everything
that you do.
MR: Shawn, thanks for
taking the time to be with us here today. How can my readers find out
more about you?
SW: Currently Robb
Rogers, Brijesh Patel and I operate
www.sbcoachescollege.com where we offer a variety of training DVD’s,
newsletter and articles. Robb, Brijesh and I are also putting together
a new site
www.myfittube.com that will truly be a unique site that is almost
entirely video based offering coaching tips and theories from some of
the best Strength Coaches in the United States. Hopefully by the time
you are all reading this we will be up and running.
If any of the readers
would like to contact me with questions about how/why I do what I do
please feel free to e-mail me
swindle@pacers.com
If you find my phone
number on a bathroom stall don’t bother to call. I am phone-a-phobic
and most likely would not answer.
Thank you for the
opportunity to talk to your readers Mike! Keep up the great work!
Upcoming Interviews
July 28th - Robb Rogers, Director of St. Vincent
Sports Performance in Indianapolis, Indiana
August 4th - Pavel
Tsatsouline, author of several books and kettlebell instructor (www.dragondoor.com)
August 11th - Buddy
Morris, head strength and conditioning coach at the University of
Pittsburgh (http://pittsburghpanthers.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/morris_buddy01.html)
August 18th - Mark
Rippetoe, author of Starting Strength and Practical Periodization
(http://www.wfac-gym.com/)
If you would like to submit a question for
one of our upcoming interviewees:
1) Please send an e-mail to
info@robertsontrainingsystems.com
2) In the subject heading, please list the person your question is directed
towards (i.e. Mike Boyle)
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answered.
We can't promise that our interviewees can
answer all questions, but we'll do our best to get a nice mix of questions.
Thanks for your support!
Stay Strong
MR
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